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Decoding Partnership in Midlife with Dr. Richard Shapiro from Decoding Women's Health

34 minutes | Tuesday, 10 February 2026

We’ve talked a lot on this show about health issues midlife women face. But what about the other people who often have a front-row seat to these changes, and can play a key supporting role? This week, a conversation about supporting a partner who’s going through menopause—with none other than Elizabeth’s own partner: Dr. Richard Shapiro (who also happens to be a pioneering breast cancer and melanoma researcher and surgeon). They talk about the ways they’ve navigated midlife changes in their relationship, common misconceptions about taking hormones, and impacts menopause can have on relationships, as well as give advice for how both partners and clinicians can better support women experiencing menopause.  Links to resources mentioned in this episode:  (00:01:38) Dr. Elizabeth Poynor on Rich Roll’s podcast Menopausal Hormone Therapy and the Risk of Breast Cancer in Women with a Pathogenic Variant in BRCA1 or BRCA2 The Menopause Society 8 facts about divorce in the United States Note: In this show, we use “women” as shorthand for people with XX chromosomes. We understand sex and gender are more complex, and acknowledge the experiences we describe reach beyond that word.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Decoding Partnership in Midlife with Dr. Richard Shapiro from Decoding Women's Health
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue

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